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A Cry in Ramadan

In brief

Some reports speak of a 'cry' or loud voice heard in Ramadan, among the troubles before the Mahdi. These reports are weak. They come mainly from Nu'aym's Kitab al-Fitan, which mentions 'a voice in Ramadan, an uproar in Shawwal, and in Dhu al-Qa'dah the tribes take sides'.

Nu'aym ibn Hammad's book is weak overall and has not been graded, so its reports are shown on this site as material under study, never as established signs. Some scholars who wrote on the Mahdi mention a Ramadan cry, but the sahih and hasan narrations do not establish it. It must never be tied to any year or any event.

What to do

Weigh reports by their authenticity: hold to what the sound narrations teach, and treat weak, unverified reports as neither belief nor a timetable.

Where it sits in the sequence

Phase 3 / 7Before the Dajjal

Mu'adh ibn Jabal's narration gives this order: Jerusalem flourishes, Yathrib is in ruins, the great battle, the conquest of Constantinople, then the Dajjal (Sunan Abi Dawud 4294, graded hasan by al-Albani). Sahih Muslim 2897 places the battle at al-A'maq or Dabiq, then Constantinople, then the Dajjal. Sunan Abi Dawud 4292 puts a truce with the Romans before the battle. The narrations on the Mahdi do not state his place in this order.